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#796682Posté le : le 29-08-2008 01:40:09 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
CPI Japon 2.4 % y/Y
mais core 0.2%

donc pas d inflation.....:))) taux négatifs là bas aussi....

plan de relance en préparation malgré l endettement 180% du PIB

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#796684Posté le : le 29-08-2008 04:01:05 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
Entendu analyse du PIB US sur Bloomberg, je crois, sans les exportations mais avec les mesures d'aide du 2ème trim le PIB + 0,2%


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#796685Posté le : le 29-08-2008 04:54:51 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
PARIS (Reuters) - Le prélèvement social envisagé par le gouvernement sur l'intéressement et la participation serait de 5% et rapporterait 1 milliard d'euros, écrit jeudi La Tribune.fr.

Après l'annonce d'une taxe sur les revenus du capital dédiée au financement du revenu de solidarité active (RSA), le gouvernement doit créer prochainement un nouveau prélèvement, destiné à renflouer les caisses de la Sécurité sociale.

Il s'agit d'un forfait social que devront acquitter les employeurs sur les sommes distribuées au titre de l'épargne salariale. La mesure avait été dévoilée fin juillet par les ministres du Budget, Eric Woerth, et de la Santé, Roselyne Bachelot, lors de la présentation du plan d'économies pour l'assurance maladie

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#796686Posté le : le 29-08-2008 06:16:24 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
immobilier, des prix en baisse de 25 à 30% , lu dans Le Monde

http://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article/2008/08/28/...


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#796688Posté le : le 29-08-2008 06:53:04 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Voir le page de serge.harimax   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
Japan's Stock Futures Jump on Faster-Than-Expected U.S. Growth

Dingo les Japonais: la stat montre que les importations US s'effondrent et ils sont contents !

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&si...
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#796689Posté le : le 29-08-2008 06:56:10 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Voir le page de serge.harimax   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
Japan Inflation Hits Decade High, Production Rises

Japanese inflation hit a new decade-high in July, topping market expectations and reinforcing views that high oil and food prices are dealing a blow to consumers as Japan faces a likely recession.



Unemployment unexpectedly fell and industrial output surprised with a small rise, but the data was not enough to change the bleak outlook for the economy.

While annual core inflation rose to 2.4 percent, analysts said it was unlikely to prompt the Bank of Japan to move interest rates from their low at 0.5 percent for a while as it eyes fall-out from a global slowdown.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26444753
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#796690Posté le : le 29-08-2008 07:01:51 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Voir le page de serge.harimax   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
Why Fannie & Freddie May Be Hiding in Your Portfolio

The simplest approach for investors who don't want to risk what might happen down the road for Fannie and Freddie is to sell any common shares they hold.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26439239
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#796691Posté le : le 29-08-2008 07:10:36 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Voir le page de serge.harimax   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
Si les Russes font pareil, il faudra que les Japonais s'y collent.


Bank of China Reduces Fannie, Freddie Investments

by CalculatedRisk

Bank of China has cut its portfolio of securities issued or guaranteed by troubled US mortgage financiers Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac by a quarter since the end of June.

The sale by China’s fourth largest commercial bank, which reduced its holdings of so-called agency debt by $4.6bn is a sign of nervousness among foreign buyers of Fannie and Freddie’s bonds and guaranteed securities.
This selling is probably why the spread between Fannie and Freddie debt yields and Treasury debt is so high. From the WSJ last week: Deflating Mortgage Rates
The differences, or spreads, between Fannie's and Freddie's debt yields and Treasury yields have widened considerably since the start of the housing crisis because of jitters about the highly leveraged companies' stability. Last September, Fannie issued three-year debt at 0.55% over Treasury yields. Last week, it paid 1.23% over Treasury yields.
So there was probably more foreign selling in July and August.
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#796692Posté le : le 29-08-2008 07:12:53 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Voir le page de serge.harimax   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
Prime Foreclosure Starts Surge Past Subprime in July

There can be no remaining doubt that the nation’s mortgage crisis has become a problem for prime credit borrowers: data released by the HOPE NOW coalition on Wednesday finds that prime foreclosure starts have finally moved ahead of subprime foreclosure starts, for the first time since the industry coalition began collecting data in July of last year — and likely for the first time in a much longer timeframe, as well, sources suggested to HousingWire Thursday afternoon.

http://www.housingwire.com/2008/08/28/prime-forecl...


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FHA Hikes Mortgage Premiums

Without the benefit of a more refined risk-based pricing structure, the Federal Housing Administration said earlier this week that it would hike its upfront mortgage premiums for all purchase money mortgages and full-credit qualifying refinances. In a letter to lenders, FHA said it would add 25 basis points to its mortgage premium, bringing the upfront premium charged to most borrowers to 1.75 percent of the total loan amount.

That change would amount to an additional $500 up-front charge on a mortgage of $200,000.

http://www.housingwire.com/2008/08/28/fha-hikes-mo...
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#796694Posté le : le 29-08-2008 07:28:18 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Voir le page de serge.harimax   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  

GDP Release Signals Further Decline into Banana Republic Status

What is remarkable is that today's 2Q GDP revision. from a 1.9% that most observers regard as likely to be revised downward (and initial releases are often revised by significant increments), has now been revised to a simply not credible 3.3%. We'll discuss in a bit how this artwork was achieved.

Yet what is more remarkable is that a quick read of the MSM (Bloomberg, Financial Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the New York Times) reveals that no source seems willing to challenge this practice and call it for what it is, manipulation for political purposes. Some economists quoted by the MSM instead politely chose to ignore the dead body in the room and argue, essentially, that this supposed data point was irrelevant as far as the outlook was concerned. Here we see some tiptoeing around the tulips quotes:

Bloomberg: ``Outside of trade, the economy is considerably weaker,'' said Carl Riccadonna, an economist at Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. in New York. ``When you look at the spending, it looks terrible for the second half of the year.''

Reuters: "This number seems to overstate the underlying strength even though exports are obviously strong," said James O'Sullivan, an economist at UBS Securities in Stamford, Connecticut.

Barry in a later post, with the help of a chart provided by Michael Panzner, found the real smoking gun: a laughable assumption for inflation. The lower the inflation assumption, the higher the GDP figure. Not only was the 1.2% chosen lower than CPI, which has been adjusted over time to underreport inflation so to reduce payouts on CPI-indexed programs, most notably Social Security, but as a commentor on Econompics noted, constituted the biggest gap between the GDP deflator and CPI since 1980 (squinting at the chart, that seems to be accurate):

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/files/gdppr...

Mind you, this massaging is taking place on top of long-running adjustments that make both GDP and inflation stats questionable. Is it time to revive the 1960s expression "credibility gap"?

From Bloomberg:

The meager gains in earnings over the last year signal the U.S. economy is in much deeper trouble than the growth estimates indicate, economists said.

Gross domestic income, or the money earned by the people, businesses and government agencies whose purchases go into calculating gross domestic product, rose 0.3 percent in the 12 months ended in June after adjusting for inflation, according to Bloomberg calculations based on today's Commerce Department growth report. GDP expanded 2.2 percent.


``The income side of the economy, with profits down for four straight quarters and employment falling, looks like a recession,'' said John Ryding, chief economist at RDQ Economics in New York.

Incomes last quarter grew 1.9 percent at an annual rate after adjusting for inflation, a little more than half the 3.3 percent gain posted by GDP, according to Bloomberg calculations. The figures showed incomes dropped in each of the prior two quarters.

``What you are seeing is more legitimate economic weakness in the income numbers,'' said James O'Sullivan, a senior economist at UBS Securities LLC in Stamford, Connecticut. ``The GDI numbers raise the potential that GDP is overstating growth.''

The 1.9 percentage-point difference between the GDI and GDP over the last 12 months is the biggest in the post World War II era.....

The income numbers are more in line with other figures that indicate the economy struggled from April through June. The jobless rate was 5.5 percent in June, up from 5.1 percent at the end of the first quarter, and employers cut 165,000 workers from payrolls, according to the Labor Department.

``I'm looking at the labor market, and the GDP income numbers make more sense,'' said Ryding. ``It certainly did not feel like 3.3 percent growth.''

The earnings data may more accurately predict the start of economic contractions, according to researchers at the Federal Reserve.

Income adjusted for inflation ``has done a better job recognizing the start of recessions than has the growth rate of real GDP,'' Jeremy J. Nalewaik, a Fed economist wrote in a December 2006 report. ``Placing an increased focus on GDI may be useful in assessing the current state of the economy.''

While the income and growth figures should theoretically match, the different methods used in calculating the numbers prevent them from converging fully.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/08/gdp-release...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&si...
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#796695Posté le : le 29-08-2008 07:43:48 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Voir le page de serge.harimax   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
Why Does It Feel Like a Recession?

http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2008/08/why_do...

Très intéressant:


Voir les graphiques très explicites.




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#796697Posté le : le 29-08-2008 07:50:43 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Voir le page de serge.harimax   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
Ils sont en récession ?


Japan's vehicle output up 24.1 percent in July on overseas demand growth

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26448968/for/cnbc
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#796700Posté le : le 29-08-2008 07:55:46 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Voir le page de serge.harimax   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
C'est pas l'euro qui devrait baisser ?

FOREX-Dollar slips on news of Russia cutting oil flow

TOKYO, Aug 29 (Reuters) - The dollar retreated against a basket of currencies on Friday as fear that Russia may cut oil supplies to Western Europe spurred oil prices and nudged down the greenback. The UK's Daily Telegraph reported Russia may restrict shipments in the coming days in response to the European Union's threat of sanctions over its military action in Georgia. Traders said the report was one reason oil was bought and the dollar was sold. The dollar gave up some gains made on Thursday on data showing the U.S.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26449032/for/cnbc
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#796712Posté le : le 29-08-2008 08:23:04 Voir le profil   Envoyer un email à l'auteur   Envoyer un message privé   Répondre avec citation  
Une info de cette nuit, mais je ne la retrouve plus....

LOUKOIL aurait reçu instruction de se préparer à réduire le débit d'or noir vers la Pologne et l'Allemagne si, lundi, l'EU prenait des sanctions à l'encontre de la Russie...

sous toutes réserves, car j'aime bien avoir plusieurs infos qui se recoupent avant de participer à la file

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